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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Oh and I hope you're emotionally stable before you play. This game will mess you up bad...
No kidding. Played the demo and I have to say it is the scariest game I have ever played. Just downright disturbing (in a cool way). The comments from the residents, the mother and her baby, the Slicer after the Little Sister to name a few notable moments (and trust me those are not really spoilers...you have to experience it).
The place oozed atmosphere and really does an impressive job drawing you in. Game is due for delivery here in a few hours. Looking forward to it.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum i played it today... was a bit.. standard ?
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"If you don't watch all the violence, you'll never get desensitized!" -- Bart Simpson
I worry for our future.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov Edited by: Stakhanov on 21/08/2007 15:19:11 Amazingly enough , Bioshock runs on my woefully inadequate PC. However , I can't get past the starting area due to it being pitch black (save for the fires and water effects) and ugly rendering bugs blocking my view half of the time. I tried to move close to a red light thingy but it does nothing special. Help ? 
*edit* oh , and I have no mouse pointer in menus , rather annoying.
All I can suggest is the latest drivers (Bioshock told me my latest driver was problematic and pointed me to a beta driver of all things).
I'd also go into the settings and lower the resolution and turn off all effects you can. Adjust the gamma/brightness as well here. See how that goes then turn on effects as you like for best experience while remaining playable.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.21 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov Edited by: Stakhanov on 21/08/2007 15:49:09
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h All I can suggest is the latest drivers (Bioshock told me my latest driver was problematic and pointed me to a beta driver of all things).
I'd also go into the settings and lower the resolution and turn off all effects you can. Adjust the gamma/brightness as well here. See how that goes then turn on effects as you like for best experience while remaining playable.
Well , there is no new driver for my integrated chipset video cards unfortunately  I started the game on lowest settings , tried to adjust gamma as well - but all it does is change the empty black background into a dark grey one it seems that my PC refuses to render anything besides the fire , smoke and water effects. There was no noticeable slowdown when I switched settings to highest details - the water effects look prettier , but the rest still seems... missing 
What video card do you have? Bioshock does NOT support Shader Model 2.0 (uses SM 3.0) so an older card that cannot handle SM3 is SOL looks like.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail 94% downloaded 
This is gonna be a great game, can't wait for release day.
Release day is today. UPS just delivered mine. Installing it as I write this. Think I will be out of EVE for a bit. 
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov Thing is , I have the required 1 GB of RAM , but part of it is used by the integrated graphics card so it wouldn't have worked well anyway. Time to get a real card...
I've never been a fan of integrated anything (audio or video). Sucks to think you have to buy a new video card just to play a game but assuming your problems are as I mentioned earlier it sounds like it is time for you to take the plunge anyway. Video cards have a roughly 2-3 year lifespan if you play games and yours, I think, is a bit out of date.
On the plus side you need not buy the most expensive video card out there to run this. I'd be surprised if a video card sold today did not support SM3 (but double check to be sure).
Just the way of the computer world. I have had several uber PCs I built that today couldn't run Windows XP much less a bleeding edge game like BioShock. Endless upgrades and thinning of my wallet seems to be a gamer's lot in life.
Note that a video upgrade will help when EVE updates their graphics engine as well (not to mention most any other game you play depending on what card you buy).
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.22 08:01:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 22/08/2007 08:03:36
Originally by: Galk As great as the setting is though.. 5 minutes in... bang it's a generic fps.... that single guy that runs up to you that drops to the floor in one solitary hit from your club.
That was my 10 minute impression of the demo, from 10 minutes it's cool n'all... but unless the story sucks me in... i don't see me playing through it on action sequences.. shoot him.. shoot him next.. activate the door ect...
This kind of reductionism always annoys me. Any game can be reduced in this fashion to sound utterly boring. Every FPS is shoot guys in room, move to next room, shoot guys there. Every RTS is build units, throw them at enemy, rinse and repeat till you win. Heck, EVE is just F1-F8, buy a bigger ship, do it again.
Obviously there is a lot more to most games. The BioShock demo does not give you a good taste for the depth of the combat. You get two plasmids in the demo and two guns. What you do not get are the interesting combos you get later in the game and setting traps for your enemies or using various ammo types for different situations. And of course the enemies get more difficult than the first guy you drop with one whack of your wrench. I suppose you could play this as a run and gun shooter but it is so much more fun finding creative ways to kill your enemies (one simple combo is set your enemies on fire and when they run to water to put themselves out electrocute the pool of water...lots of fun that).
And of course there is the setting and story and overall atmosphere. Bioshock is more a work of art in this respect and if it is something you cannot appreciate mores the pity for you. If you are a gamer who has become so jaded as to only see, "gun, shoot guy, next" I wonder why you play at all.
As for easy enemies wait till you fight a Big Daddy. See how far you get with one whack of a wrench on that guy. 
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.24 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo OK, mini-rant over with lol. When I installed the demo and start to play it my mouse is invisible and I can hear the game just fine and I can see the fire but I see all these yellow squares floating around instead of anything else. Maybe it's my drivers I don't know.
Not 100% sure on this but this sounds like what happens when your video card does not support Shader Model 3 (SM3). I have read a lot of complaints from x800 card owners (apparently a lot of them) and this sounds like what they experience and this is due to the x800 card not supporting SM3 (only supports SM2).
There is no fix for this save buying a new video card. I think pretty much everything on the market today should support SM3 but I'd double check to be sure before spending money on it.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha Also, i'd not advise to buy this game if you're not prepared to deal with some installation issues. ATM you can only activate it on 2 different machines - And uninstallation reputedly does not clear up a licensed activation. At the moment, the retail version can be installed only twice, and if you lose your Steam version through a crash, you've lost 1 of your 2 installations there too.
The developer is increasing the number of installations from 2 to 5. They are also going to release a "deauthorization" tool so you can get back a previously used license.
Originally by: Syrin Loved the demo, uninstalled it in anticipation of getting the full game, but cant get rid of the bloody rootkit. 2K have kindly gone silent more or less over it, anyone got any ideas other than a full format ?
SecuROM does NOT use a rootkit in its implementation. If you have one it came from somewhere else. Granted, like many other people, I am not thrilled with the whole SecuROM thing but they are falling over themselves to say rootkits have no part in their software.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.24 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sereifex Daku SecuROM keeps telling me my legitimately bought games are illegally downloaded games. I hate them so much >.<
Yeah...you and a few thousand other people it seems.
SecuROM seems to get ****y if certain things are running on your PC. In particular I have seen reports that AVG needs to be stopped or entirely removed (unacceptable of course and may have been resolved with an update...I have AVG and all runs fine but many report this). Daemon Tools seems to **** it off and even some legitimate Microsoft tools such as Process Explorer screws it up.
Of course there may be many more I am unaware of and I am in complete agreement that including SecuROM was a HUGE mistake on 2Ks part. Legitimate buyers are getting hosed in droves. Pirates got around it before it was even officially for sale. Who knows how much 2K had to pay SecuROM for use of this software? Now people are returning their games or avoiding buying it and many are turning to pirated versions as an option. While the pirates were fine all along. I'd wager 2K has lost a good deal more money over all of this than they have saved because SecuROM foiled a would-be pirate.
I appreciate their desire to protect their work and make a profit from it but I cannot see how this helps at all.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha Rootkit Revealer revealed the SecuROM rootkit on my fresh, new PC... Hate to burst your bubble, but Bioshock *does* install a SecuROM rootkit.
You need to read up more on what a rootkit actually is. What SecuROM is installing is not a rootkit. Rootkit Revealer spots the registry entry from SecuROM as a possible rootkit because of the asterisk at the end but it is still not a rootkit.
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